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I was reading car and driver tire test and ordered new tires! LOL You'll never guess what brand came in second..
I was all set to order nitto invo's for my c6...I priced them out at 869 delivered or 930 installed locally...
Low and behold....I get this months car and driver and they trash the invos so I read on...and the Hankook 110's or whatever the hell they are called are ranked second..
They surpass the michelin PS2's in handling and braking....autox both wet and dry...or are dam close enough that I say to myself...for 684 dollars delivered...I'll give them a shot...so I called discount tire and they are delivering them to me in the next week or so...
Its actually 734 delivered with a 50 dollar rebate check..
The rebate check is good as long as you purchase before...august 31st..
Just a head up...for those that might need new tires.....they reviewed dam good in the magazine and the price is a little over the cost of ONE RUNFLAT GOODYEAR! LOL
I figure if I hate them...I can always burn em down the cords fast...but all kidding aside...its a smokin price from discount tire.com
Ask for Danny when you call..
he's a cool guy.
JB
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I'm curious to see how they perform and wear.
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I am not surprized I have Hankook on my truck, a good tire. Sumitomo on my vette a great tire. I get coments all the time about the tread pattern and then "whats a sumitomo"? and the inference that it is cheap and not worthy of a Corvette. It is worthy cause it performs. Bridgestone is recalling 175K tires made in Costa Rica and sold in the USA. You cannot tell by the brand name anymore how the tire will perform or where it was made. Price is no longer an accurate measure, either. I will buy Sumitomo again and Hankook for my truck. I use to swear by American made but anymore it is unclear where it was made and how it will perform. Good Luck with the tires. I hope they serve you well.
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I wasn't dropping 1600 bucks on runflats. I wouldn't pay 684 for runflats either..I don't want them on my vette...
hell if my 2008 CTS can run with no spare tire, no jack, and no runflats so can my vette..
Now a set of non runflats that rated number 2 in the latest car and driver test....which cost me 684 dollars delivered (and no tax)..
I figure what the hell...even if they last just a year....or they are terrible...?
I'll have a good laugh...and who knows...
Maybe these tires are really good performers like the car and driver test says they are.. btw....HANKOOK? Who the hell named this tire? lol I don't care...
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I had sumitomo on my 01 vette n loved them def cool tread pattern and handle well.......i cant find them sized for my 05 vert......any suggestions?
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Car & Driver tire test ... 9 low buck offrerings take on the Big Dog PS2
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Could any of these nine low cost offerings knock off the Pilot Sport PS2? The Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 in the test size of 225/45-17 costs $192.00.
Here's where the challengers come in price wise: BF Goodrich G-Force T/A KDW2 ($126) Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport ($132) Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec ($137) Falken Azenis RT-615 ($121) Hankook Ventus V12 EVO ($106) Kumho Ecsta XS ($120) Ling Long L688 ($57) Nitto Invo ($117) Yokohama S-Drive ($115)
The test covered several different areas of performance. AutoX , skid pad , braking , price and ride quality. I am not going to reproduce the entire article but, here are some of the numbers
quote:Originally posted by my01vette: I had sumitomo on my 01 vette n loved them def cool tread pattern and handle well.......i cant find them sized for my 05 vert......any suggestions?
If it were me? I'd strongly suggest looking into the Hankooks from Discount tire direct...
Locally I shopped and they wanted over 1100 for the hankooks installed..
Ordering before 8/31 the Hankooks are 684 delivered..and then figure a c note for the install.. mounted and balanced etc...
I'll need a few weeks to get the tire mold compound nonsense to wear off...but I know they will be way better than the goodyear runflats I have on the car now..
I did this on my 99 c5 with a set of pilot sports and it was the best handling mod I made on the car..
The report shows these Hankooks to handle better than the PS2's? so what the hell..
i'll take a 684 dollar gamble..
That would be my suggestion fwiw..
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quote:Originally posted by J.B.: Lin Long and prosper? ( Wasn't it the star trek Dr. spock who used to say on every show as he gave out the vulcan peace sign to his breathern.)
Did you see the new Star Trek yet? I liked the way he DIDN'T say that at the very end of the movie.
quote:Originally posted by J.B.: I'll need a few weeks to get the tire mold compound nonsense to wear off...
I know I've mentioned a few times that I work in a tire plant (#4 on your results list above), but have I ever mentioned what I do there? I fix the machines that cook the tires, the ones with the molds in them.
Trust me, there is no such thing as "tire mold compound". That stuff is just the natural result of rubber curing in a press. It's actually quite nasty stuff. The entire back half of the machines are covered in a black oily ooze that does not wash off easily if you get it on your hands. I wear coveralls at work, but the clothes I wear under them are permanently stained.
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Chewy..I didn't realize you worked with a tire company...so please explain to me why when I get a new set of tires the first few hundred miles the tires feel real greasy on the road..
(all past new tires anyway) What is it that causes it?
Its just the natural result of the rubber curing process?
I remember the last set of toyo proxis were crap...sliding all over the road and then poof! the car stuck to the road like glue again..
That was in my last C5 Z06 not the C6 yet..
TIA and happy fourth of july!
JB
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I'm not sure exactly what that stuff is, but I do know that one of the components of it that causes problems with the rest of our equipment is resorcinol. That greasy sh!t can eat through some rubber seals.
When a curing press first opens there's a cloud of steam/smoke that comes off of the tires for a few minutes. For lack of a better way to explain it, when that steam/smoke condenses into a liquid it forms the greasy stuff you're asking about (I try my best not to breathe it in whenever avoidable). The "sheen" that most new tires have is pretty much a result of that gunk being on the tire.
Another possible cause for the lack of initial grip with tires is possibly just the way they're cooked. The molds are mostly aluminum, and are essentially completely surrounded by steam at a regulated temperature, which makes the molds nice and hot. Between the hot molds and pressurized steam inside a bladder that inflates on the inside of the tire, the raw (green) rubber gets cooked.
Depending mostly on the size of the tire, it gets cured in the machine for a certain amount of time with the molds at a certain temperature. The rubber is forced into the mold by the expanding bladder. The little wiskers you see on new tires are the result of vents in the mold that are there to let air escape from the area between the green tire and the mold.
Since the outer edge of the tire is pressed up against the metal mold, it is bound to get just a little bit more cooked than the innermost rubber. Kinda like the crust on bread or the outer edge of pancakes. That thin outer layer of the tread will be slightly harder than the rest of it, which could also cause the new tires to have less grip than what NASCAR fans would know as "scuffed" tires. Once you wear out the crust, you're down to the soft rubber that you're expecting and the grip gets better.
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