quote:Originally posted by Chewy: Isn't the alternative to meeting the MPG standards still just a modified version of the 'gas guzzler' tax. I can't see any gov't, even the Obama administration, telling Porsche, Ferrari, or Lambo that they can't sell any cars in the USA and actually get away with it.
Time will tell, but environmentalists are about as an authoritarian thinking group as there is. Combine that with the fact that probably most people look at sports cars as being kind of juvenile and it could spell the end of high performance internal combustion engined cars.
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quote:Originally posted by 86Z51: [QUOTE]...probably most people look at sports cars as being kind of juvenile...
While washing the Vette last summer I actually had a neighbor come up to me and say "When are you going to get a real car and drop the toy?" Took everything I had to keep from laughing as I looked at his 2001 Camary sitting in the driveway.
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[/qb][/QUOTE]While washing the Vette last summer I actually had a neighbor come up to me and say "When are you going to get a real car and drop the toy?" Took everything I had to keep from laughing as I looked at his 2001 Camary sitting in the driveway.[/QB][/QUOTE]
That is simply priceless my friend.
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It's currently one of, if not the most profitable platform they have, along with a market culture that is very loyal. So let's hope everyone in play gets the importance of that and keeps the innovation coming!!
It'd be a complete shame to lose such an American icon, much less one that actually pulls off the whole picture - performance, fuel economy, quality, and mechanical reliability, married with style and popularity...
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I was curioius about what the world supposedly is moving towards when gas goes back to 4 bucks a gallon...
I tested a vehicle that car and driver raves about....
The sales manager works out at my health club so he threw me the keys..and I took my son out in one of these econobox wonders...or so the press says...
First off the epa gas mileage was all of 27 city and 33 hwy...(it was a honda fit sport)
What a piece of sh!t.. it was like squirrels running on a hamster wheel...LOL
I can't believe people buy this crap...It looked like a cute little space ship but for the 10mpg improvement? I'd rather pay the four dollars a gallon for gas, drive the vette(with its ls powerful, inexpensive and relatively fuel efficient V8) and forget about it...
4.7 liter? I don't really think it'll happen but who knows...
At least its not a 1.5 liter coffee can motor like the rest of the world might produce...
It was a real eye opener.. I suggest test driving one as an experience in how the other half lives..
Unfuc en believable..
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I go out to Vegas a few times a year, and I always rent a car. I rarely put more than 50 miles on it over my normal 3-5 day trips, but those are some looooong miles in the 'economy' cars that I rent. On the plus side, I don't think I've ever had to put in more than 2 gallons of gas before I returned it.
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My daily driver is an econo-box of fairly rough condition. I sort of challenge myself to see what kind of mileage I can achieve. I'm still trying to achieve 40, but I think I'll have to change the exhaust and maybe adjust the valves to see it. My Vette hardly ever sees street duty and I probably average about 2.5 mpg with it when I do drive it, but when I do drive it, it is a real treat.
Enjoy it while you can because the government is not going to allow vehicles like these to be built, anymore.
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I forgot something; doesn't the Ferrari 430 have a 4.3 liter engine? Seems like they are pretty fun to drive.
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The upcoming new replacement for the ferrari f430 is the f500 with a five liter v8 I believe..
the fuel economy of the 6.2 liter lS3 is amazing.
GM should really just add in direct injection for a 5% increase in fuel economy and offer up a dual clutch sequential trans to add another 5% .. " My percentages my be off a couple points one way or the other...but there's no reason to drop the displacement down...
Just up the efficiency both in fuel economy, emissions and performance...
thats what brought us to this point already...
IMO GM shouldn't even wait for the c7...they should move on this during the extended life cycle of the c6.
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My point is that a smaller engine doesn't have to be boring. We're already living with downsized engines compared to the 60's and 70's but doing ok performance wise.
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My future view is the Grand Sport that is what I want to drive and the mpg aint bad even at $4/gal. Time is better than money and if I am spending my time driving give me a GrandSport Corvette, please Mr. Obama
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The new Obama regulations will have us all driving po dunky golf carts.
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If you're connected, you'll still be allowed to use your Gulfstream, or larger, jet for occasional jaunts. Just don't even think about rolling the Suburban out of the garage.
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I understand what you are all saying, but it would be hard for me to visualize taking a car that has been Chevrolet's flag ship for 56 years and phase it out. I think somehow, Corvette will remain, perhaps in a different form, but still performance oriented. My feeling is that things should continue on for Corvette once GM is back above water.
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