my fog lights went out. The bulbs are good the fuses are good. The dash light indicator still lights up just no fog lights. Has anyone have suggestions. I am thinking its the switch but not for sure. Anyone else have this problem. Thanks for your help. Nick

could be the relays. are these the stock fogs or the PIAA's?

The lights are stock. Is there a good way to check the relays and do they just pull out. THanks

Probably the relay, it is a unplug and plug in, sealed part.

c4c5 is probably the best person to answer this.

One thing to try while you are waiting for an answer is to get someone to turn the fogs off and on for you whole you listen for the "click" of the relays. If you don't hear anything then it could be probable that your relays are gone.
However, I'm not completely sure if the relays are audible since I have changed my sotck fogs out for the PIAA's a long time ago. The PIAA relays are audible from inside the car with the engine off.

Chris

I checked the relays the bulbs and fuses. Everything looks to be ok. Any other ideas. Is there a common problem people have heard of maybe a loose wire somewhere or a know weak switch or something. I am trying to avoid a dealership. Thanks for the help

Here is a link to the Fog Lights Schematic

http://home.comcast.net/~ebaychewy/wsb/media/224376/site1018.JPG

Do you have a voltmeter, or even better a selectable multi-meter? Any $10 analog meter will do, or you can splurge on a $20 digital meter at Wal-Mart.

Start by disconnecting a bulb and verifying that you have 12VDC on the plug at the bulbs, then work your way back if you don't. NOTE: don't touch both parts of the plug with the same test lead or you will blow a fuse and add to your problems.

If you DO have 12VDC on the purple and black bulb wires then it's the bulbs. :rolleyes:

If you DON'T have 12V at the bulb with the test leads on the purple and black wires....

-Check with the red test lead on the purple bulb wire and put the black lead onto a good metal ground inside the engine compartment to make sure the +12V is there at the bulb. You lost your ground to the bulbs if this shows 12V, trace the wire back looking for a loose wire/plug or post the results for more help.

-Check with the black test lead on the black bulb wire and the red test lead on the red post of your battery. If this gives you 12V then the + supply isn't getting to the bulbs. Recheck all fuses (with an ohm-meter, they should indicate the same as when you touch the test leads together). If the fuses are good I would try replacing the relay next, but the relay also supplies the + for the dash light, which you say is still on

GOOD LUCK! Let us know what you find.

edit:
I forgot to mention....The On/Off 'Switch' is just a momentary contact that tells the BCM to "change the status of the fog lights", it isn't an "On=closed contacts/Off=open contacts" type of switch like the ones that turn on your lights at home.

I have fixed the problem. I am a idiot. Thank you all for your help. I spent over two hours trying to fix the problem and it was a simple fix. The bulbs are bad. I have a little justification. Both went out at the same time which to me sounds rare. First thing I did was check the fuses. They were ok. next the bulbs. My fault was that I only checked the driver side bulb. I failed to pull it all the way out of the connector leaving me to only get a look at it about a foot away. It looked fine. After a couple of hours of checking stuff off and on an thinking I decided to pull the passenger side for the heck of it. It was obviously blow. I than pulled the drivers side completely out and it still looked good, it was clear(non-black and unlike the passenger side) and the spring connecting the terminals inside the light still looks ok. My friends have been making fun of me for my stupidity. After I showed one of them the bulb they could see how I made the mistake. I learned my lesson. Next time I will check both bulbs. Thanks for everyones help.