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#106256 - 07/10/09 02:35 PM Re: Buy C6 cause the C7 will have 4.7 motor ugh!
miamiguy305 Offline
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i agree with bados, i dont see the vette going anywhere, look at what they did with the camaro they got rid of it and now its back better than ever.
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#106257 - 07/25/09 08:26 PM Re: Buy C6 cause the C7 will have 4.7 motor ugh!
Stan Offline
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Registered: 11/19/01
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Loc: Southington, CT.
Talked to a Callaway and a chevy rep at a Corvette show two weeks ago. They both said, if the C7 is going to be produced, it will probably be around 2017. Of course, they were just guesing because no one except the GM big wigs really know for sure and they aren't talking. Kind of makes buying the new GS a smart buy !

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#106258 - 09/07/09 08:02 PM Re: Buy C6 cause the C7 will have 4.7 motor ugh!
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Registered: 11/11/05
Posts: 7
Loc: Apopka, Florida
As long as the Corvette continues to sell in sufficent numbers it will be in production. The 2009 production numbers were about 17,000. You can still get leftover 2008's as of this date. The dealers are starving for Camaro's and Equinox's to match the advertising campaigns. 2009 Vettes are selling for about invoice or lower.

My 1999 A4 Z51 Coupe has 105K on it. I need to replace weatherstriping, headlight motors and the seal on the left side of the diff. I drive it 400 miles a week and have no performance problems with it. 21 to 24 mpg around town and 26 to 28 mpg on the highway.

I would love to have a 1SS Camaro but will not pay sticker or over for it. I may opt for the 1LT Camaro with the V6 and the manual 6 speed to have a vehicle with a warranty. I will have to order it to get it the way I want it and play with the dealer to get it for the right price.

What changes can they make to the present C6 to get the weight down even more? More aluminum frames, less luxury electronics, lighter wheel/tire combos, get rid of the targa. Lighter/better seats. Less service complexity. The 2010 Grand Soprt may lean to that direction.

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#106259 - 09/08/09 12:37 PM Re: Buy C6 cause the C7 will have 4.7 motor ugh!
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Loc: North East
I think the present c6 is light enough...at 3300 lbs? or 3200?

I dig the grand sport look but not enough to drop the hammer off my 08...

The new camaro SS is awesome...Get that over the V6 with stick...IMO 31 grand is a steal for the SS...

JMO
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#106260 - 09/29/09 11:37 PM Re: Buy C6 cause the C7 will have 4.7 motor ugh!
86Z51 Offline
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Registered: 11/24/01
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Quote:
Originally posted by J.B.:
I think the present c6 is light enough...at 3300 lbs? or 3200?
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JMO
To quote the Great Gatsby, "You can be never too thin nor too rich." Obviously, no car will ever weigh nothing, but less is better. Airplane manufacturers are turning away from aluminum to carbon-fiber even though the costs are much higher because every pound saved off the airframe means more payload (read profit), less fuel consumption, greater range, etc.

For a car, lighter weight means, better acceleration, beter cornering, better braking, better fuel mileage. I think the mileage factor will be the factor which pushes manufacturers toward lighter materials.

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#106261 - 09/30/09 08:02 AM Re: Buy C6 cause the C7 will have 4.7 motor ugh!
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Look at the competitions weight and we'll see if chevy's products are overweight?

911 weighs how much?
GTR?
even nissans little 370Z weighs?

Ferrari 430 weighs?
Viper?
Lamborghini?
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#106262 - 09/30/09 06:26 PM Re: Buy C6 cause the C7 will have 4.7 motor ugh!
86Z51 Offline
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Registered: 11/24/01
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They are all overweight, but alot of it is Federal standards which adds equipment and mass to the car. The shipping weight on my 71 Lotus Europa was listed as 1275 lbs. I don't think you could build a car that light, anymore.

I think the future, if high performance sports cars have a future, is smaller and lighter due to CAFE standards.

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#106263 - 09/30/09 09:53 PM Re: Buy C6 cause the C7 will have 4.7 motor ugh!
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As a teenager the 71 to 74 Europa was a personal favorite of mine!

Never drove one but sure did dream of what it would be like..

A formula ford race car for the street?
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#106264 - 10/01/09 10:53 PM Re: Buy C6 cause the C7 will have 4.7 motor ugh!
86Z51 Offline
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Steering response could be described as immediate. I actually drove it coast to coast several times and was pretty tiring (no a/c). Got 37 mpg one leg cruising at 80 with a leaking gas tank. I guess I was lucky no one smoking came walking by and dropped his cigarette since I never did that leak fixed.

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#106265 - 12/12/09 07:29 AM Re: Buy C6 cause the C7 will have 4.7 motor ugh!
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I want DSG or MCT transmission in the 6.2 liter 475hp C7 coupe.. that I buy..
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#106266 - 01/02/10 09:31 PM Re: Buy C6 cause the C7 will have 4.7 motor ugh!
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Guess the next engine for the C7 corvette has been confirmed to be a 5.5 liter..(BOOHISS)

Corvette Racing boss Doug Fehan confirms new 5.5L V8 for Sebring debut
by Sam Abuelsamid (RSS feed) on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 7:55PM


Corvette C6.R GT2 - Click above for high-res image gallery

Back in August when General Motors introduced the all-new GT2 class Corvette C6.R, it ran downsized 6.0-liter version of the 7.0-liter V8 from the long-dominant GT1 car. At the launch, Corvette Racing program manager Doug Fehan told us the 6.0-liter was just an interim engine. With revised GT rules on tap for 2010, GM was already planning a brand-new engine for its race Vette.

Unlike the 6.0/7.0, which is a ground-up race engine that only shares basic architectural dimensions with the production small block, the 2010 C6.R's V8 is a new 5.5-liter unit that will indeed be derived from the production engine found in roadgoing Corvettes. In fact, the 5.5-liter race engine will be built at GM's Performance Build Center alongside ZR1 and Z06 V8s.

Fehan has confirmed that the 5.5 is running on the dyno and will make its race debut at the 12 Hours of Sebring in March. We don't have any additional details on the new engine yet, although we were told earlier that it is based on the next-generation production small-block, which we expect to see in the Corvette soon.
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#106267 - 01/02/10 10:26 PM Re: Buy C6 cause the C7 will have 4.7 motor ugh!
Chewy Offline
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They could probably squeeze 350hp out of a n/a 5.5L, but if they were to tack on a small turbo or s/c that would have some kick.

I'd imagine the warranty alone would limit it to n/a crazy
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#106268 - 01/03/10 07:08 AM Re: Buy C6 cause the C7 will have 4.7 motor ugh!
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All kidding aside...GM back in 2002 got 405 hp from a 5.7 liter motor.. so with the advances such as Direct Injection.... I would estimate that since my CTS 3.6 liter with Direct injection puts out 50 hp more than the 3.6 motor without Direct injection... (304 hp vs 255hp)

Thats almost 20 percent more power.....so by extrapolation (SP) the 405hp ls6 could theoritically make an additional 70 ponies...

475hp 5.5 liter in the C7 is a best guess for the upcoming corvette...

At least we could hope....

also since the camaro SS with its 426 hp 6.2 liter ...? I believe the 5.5 V8 in the c7 will have to produce more hp than the camaro SS...which will probably take a year or two delay before the camaro shifts its engine to the same displacement as the c7 vette... and no way GM is going to release a new vette with less hp than the camaro SS and very rare GM would replace the vette and the camaro in the same year unless the hp is higher in the vette..

How could GM create a new motor for the camaro SS with less hp when the 2011 mustang GT just released info with 412 hp.. ?
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#106269 - 01/11/10 07:14 PM Re: Buy C6 cause the C7 will have 4.7 motor ugh!
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Registered: 11/24/01
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Loc: arizona
I'm sure that they will be able to get well over 400 hp. If they can rev a 7 liter engine to 7,000 rpm then they can certainly get that much out of a 5.5 L engine, and, as JB pointed out, they were getting 405 out of a 5.7 L motor that revved to only 6,500.

The formula HP=(Torque x rpm) divided by 5252 shows that a smaller engine can compensate by revving higher.

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